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“Not So Traditional” Traditional arm guard. Yea or Nay?

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Made myself a new arm guard. Wanted something different then typical piece of leather with Arrowhead/Bear Paw/Deer Hoof design.
Ended up with it. I am border line if I like it or not. I might be embarrassed to wear it at the local Range. It looks more "Ren Fair"ish than I wanted to.

What do you think?

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2014 3rd ANNUAL LAKESIDE ARCHERY TRADITIONAL CLASSIC

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2014 3rd ANNUAL LAKESIDE ARCHERY
TRADITIONAL CLASSIC
FEBRUARY 23, 2014 9:00AM

$ 17.00 (PER PERSON) PRE REGISTRATION DATE 2/15/14
(MUST PRE REGISTER PRIOR TO 2/15/14)

AT THE DOOR REGISTRATION
$ 20.00 ENTRY FEE PER SHOOTER
FAMILY MAX $ 40.00 (living in same household)

PRACTICE and WARM UP
FROM 8AM to 9AM AS SPACE AND TIME ALLOW

QUALIFICATION ROUND
Shoot 12 ends of 5 arrows with X scored as Tie Breaker
Each end will be timed for 3:00 minutes
Possible score is 300 with 60 X’s

SHOOT UP FORMAT
Shoot up round will be 3 ends of 5 arrows X as Tie Breaker

EQUIPMENT
Traditional Bows Only
No Stabilizers, Weights, Sights, Marks, Cutouts,
Clickers or Draw checks
Factory risers only no modifications allowed

MONEY SHOOT
Total Payback to archers will be 50% of entries
1st, 2nd and 3rd place pay out

Lakeside Archery – 55 Cumberland Road – N. Yarmouth Me. 04097 – PHONE 207-829-6213

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Traditional Archers I Have Known. Be Helpful and Get Alone

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I have been in archery all my life and won my first tournament at age 7.
Over the many years I have worked with or met many of the well know traditional archers from the past including Glen St Charles and the entire family, Fred Bear, Earl Hoyt, Damon Howatt and of course my father Gail Martin. These men were all gentlemen and would take the time to help any archer.
They all did have another thing in common. None of them really liked compound bows.
During the years there is always opinions and controversy.
I know there has been some additional friction in the traditional section but all need to keep in mind that all are in this sport together and want it to be fun and enjoyable. Be helpful and please keep it polite.
Thanks
Terry
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Photo Fred Bear, Katie Smith and Terry Martin
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Looking for a stubby traditional

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Hey all. First time post, but been lurking a while.

I have a wonderful wife who doesn’t mind in the least me turning the basement into a range. (YAY!) The issue I do have is I gotta get something that doesn’t scrape the floor joists. I’ve been looking at older bear kodiacs and clones. My other issue is that this is my entry into the sport and I can’t command a brandy-new (I.e. Expensive) new toy. What is the shortest entry level riser/limb combo I could expect to see?

I looked up the pros and cons of short risers, and free heated practice area pretty much out weigh any cons.

I’m not set on riser/limb combos. If an affordable one piece/classic/wood bow became available it’s just as great.

Anyone have any pointers or ideas? I’m not above buying a teenbow and overdrawing it, nor is poundage very important. it is purely paper punching for me.

Thanks everyone!

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My first year of traditional Archery (Warning Wordy Post)

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We are coming up on my the anniversary of my first year shooting traditional bows. So I thought I’d look back on my progress, what i did right, and what i did wrong. My goal is and has always been to hunt and take game with my recurve/longbow.

So back track to 12/25/2012 and after much research and input from the AT Trad forum I recieved my first recurve as a Christmas present. It was a 35 lb @28 Samick Journey AMO 64". I’m 6’3 265 pounds, and played tackle in HS football so i’m no small fry. I previously shot a 70lb compound with a 30" drawlength for over 10 years, including winter leagues, so was not a complete noob to shooting a bow.

So then i acquired some easton aluminum arrows full length w/ 125 grn points and feathers, a stringer, tab, glove and arm guard. It was the middle of winter so most of my initial shooting took place in my basement at 10 yards or less.

I acquired the book "Shooting the Stickbow" and used it do my intial setup of the bow, and as a reference for basic form.

So i head to the basement excited to setup the bow and take my first shot. I set brace height to the recommended range, put on my rug rest and tied on a knocking point.

My first draw with my 35# bow was tougher than i expected! My bow arm shook a little and i didn’t even make it to full draw. When i released i grazed the side of my face with my string hand… I actually recall thinking "am I going to be able to do this?" I was collapsing one shot, and plucking the next.

But I was DETERMINED, I shot, and shot, and shot some more. By the end of the first week i was aclimated to the 35lbs and could draw it back comfortably and even wondered if i should have gone for a 40# bow. I was capable of reaching full draw and holding there indefinitely (although i seldom did). I still had a floating anchor, and was collapsing, and my string hand was a mess too. I struggled sprayed arrows all over the target, even flat out missing the target at times even a point blank range. This continued for several weeks, I eventually changed to an elevated rest (hoyt stick-on) and my arrow flight improved immediately .vs. shooting off the shelf. I also built a new string for my bow from fast-flight (D97) and my bow shot flatter and quieter.

Then disaster struck… I was shooting in the basement and my upper limb hit the edge of the rafter and split.

I had gotten to a point where I felt like i wanted to continue my journey in trad archery, so I broke down and purchased a Hoyt Excel with 45# Black Max limbs. With the ILF adjustment i could get these limbs down near 40 lbs @28 and figured I could use them to gradually increase my poundage.

The Excel is a VERY good bow, and with a nap flipper rest I proceeded to work on my form. I started shooting outside and at distances up to 40 yards, and it uncovered many of my form flaws.. I figured out that my anchor was floating, and shot THOUSANDS of arrows at point blank focusing on nothing other than experimenting with different anchor positions and reaching a solid anchor. Next I figured out I was collapsing and that’s why my arrows kept going to left all the time. I learned on AT about back tension and drawing and holding with back muscles… Then I shot THOUSANDS of arrows trying to work on expanding through the shot and touching my shoulder as a secondary anchor. Then I worked on my string hand… I experimented with both a glove and tab. I experimented with 3 under and split. I settled on 3 under and a Rod Jenkin’s Safari Tuff Tab. I learned on AT about taking a deep hook and then just relaxing my string hand while maintaining back tension.

I had gradually over the summer increased the weight on my Excel from 42 lbs up to 48+ lbs on the fingers. I was handling the weight comfortably, and my form coming along.

I learned that coming from a compound you give up the complications of adjusting your bow in some respects, but you gain complications of tuning your arrows to the bow. Initially tuning was futile, worthless, pick an adjective. It wasn’t worth wasting time on because my form flaws made the arrows look weak one shot and stiff the next. By mid-summer my form stabilized to the point i could start tuning somewhat. I learned that the best way for me was to start with a bare shaft and a bunch of different point weights. I found that if i could take a bare shaft and by adjusting point weight, length and/or brace height, get it to fly straight without any wobble and impact the target fairly straight that was the best way to get a basic tune and know you have the RIGHT ARROW. From there, i’d shoot the bare shafts with fletched shafts and tweak brace height and nock height until they group together pefectly.

Aiming… This was my downfall. I had spent precious little time on aiming. There are a bunch of different ways to aim… Gapping at the bow, gapping at the target, instinctive, gap-stinctive, string walking, face walking, even a sight. I could tape a matchstick on my bow as a makeshift sight and hold a decent group, without it though I could be hit or miss (literally).

Summer was ending, i tuned broadheads with my bow, i even put a sight on my Excel and considered hunting with a sight. I considered hunting with an extra nock tied on at a 20 yard crawl. In the end, I decided I just wasn’t ready to hunt with my trad gear. I hadn’t developed the confidence and skill i needed to meet my own criteria to hunt game.

So i pulled out my compound bow and in 15 minutes i was ready for the season. I ended up killing 2 does and a buck with my compound this year all of them fell within 50 yards. Funny thing is all my deer were shot at very close range well inside 20 yards.

I HAVE NOT given up on my goal to convert completely to traditional gear, I have worked my way up to shooting a 50lb longbow and a 52lb recurve to test the waters. These are acutally more weight than that at my near 30" draw length. However, I’m finding that its just not enjoyable to shoot so much weight, and its much harder to maintain form, and difficult to shoot the quantity of arrows with these heavy bows.

So I’m settling in on bows around 45# at 28" which at my draw length are just under 50lbs. I have a 45# Samick Phantom coming for Christmas and also purchase a Trad tech Pinnacle riser (from Kegan in the Classifieds) to mate with my 45# BlackMax limbs. Oh, and on that note, I found that the Excel didn’t handle 50# very well unless you shoot a very heavy arrow. I plan to setup these bows to shoot the same arrow and use them for hunting and fun 3d. I may also pick up a set of cheap, low pound ILF training limbs for the pinnacle to continue working on form. If I had it to do over again, i may have gotten more materials like masters of the barebow and books/dvds on form and aiming earlier on or gotten a coach.

The AT forum has been a big help to me, and I’m still working towards my goal. Traditional archery has its own set of challenges, nothing is handed to you, and I think that’s why its so rewarding.

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New to traditional

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Hey all have a question ,I shoot a hook style release with my compound ,is it possible to tie a d loop on a traditional ,setup .pros and cons please ,


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New to Traditional: new bow question

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Ok, I have been shooting compounds for about 20 years and have decided its time for a challenge. I ordered a new Liberty Contender from Allen Boice. It ordered a 50# @ 28 inch draw…..is this to heavy?? I am young and in decent shape pull a 70# compound for league night…I just don’t want to set myself up for failure before I even start…..very excited to join the traditional ranks and will have lots of questions I am sure.

Also what arrow material recommendations do you all have? I picked up some port orford cedar shafts but saw all sorts out there, lodge pole, Douglass, spruce, bamboo etc…any thoughts on what is best


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Well..I’m going traditional 100%

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I traded my mathews creed and I no longer will own a compound.
I’m committing to hunting with traditional equipment from here on out. I’m excited and nervous at the same time.

It is gonna be a fun year!

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