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Ok here’s my situation. I’m looking at these 3 bows. I like things about all 3 However one really stood out after 40 shots through each. I shot all 3 set to my specs. 29” 60 pounds. The shop set them up with a whisker biscuit rest a D-loop and nothing else. Without sight, kisser or peep all three I was able to group arrows well and even slap vanes on some by looking down arrow and putting on target. So here we go.
The Vertix
dead in hand after shot, very quite, smooth as silk draw and comfortable valley with solid back wall and decent grip. Upon reaching FD I have to bring it to the target point and level it up with grip wrist and hand, heavy! After 20 shots I was noticing the weight. Wider and bulkier than both the other bows.

Carbon RX1
Small amount of kick out and up after shot release, quite, draw is a little choppy drops hard into a short valley hits hard into stops, wants to launch feel at full draw with any forward movement, grip nice as nice as Vertix, light enough to shoot all day. Acquires target fast like as soon as you draw back it’s settled level and ready to go. I felt like I could sling arrows at target twice as fast as Vertix. Draw cycle definitely not as comfortable as Vertix
Carbon Defiant
Small kick out and up after shot, very quite, draws very smooth very close to Vertix, comfortable valley without ready to go feeling and cushioned into back wall, grip hands down for me the nicest most comfortable grip Iv ever touched, light enough to shoot all day and night, acquires target settles and ready to go at FD but just not as fast as RX1 but faster than Vertix.
My problem? Which to choose? The Vertix and RX1 are still in production the Defiant is not. The only Defiant the shop by me has or can get is in buckskin. Also the Vertix and RX1 are newer with newer technologies made into them. The Defiant is grip centered the RX1 is arrow centered. Not sure which is better for accuracy. As for comfort I feel the Defiant is a mix of the Vertix and RX1. HELP!!!

How much should I pay for the bow used. And is it even worth buying.

I just bought a pse carbon air 34. I really like the bow but have never owned a pse before.
1:As far as tuning goes will tuning be the same as it was on my halon since they are both dual cam sytems. For example will adding or removing twist to the string or cables have the same effect on the bow.
2:Also my rest needs to be really close to the riser to get a good paper or bare shaft tune are there shims that I can switch around similar to the top hats on my mathews? I would like to get my center shot closer to spec.
3: Is there any adjustablity in the cable guard? It is really close to my arrow like 1/16", or is that normal?
Thanks for any help .

Shooting either a Mathews Vertix or PSE Evoke 31 at 74-75 pound draw weight, 29 draw length.

Arrows cut 29" carbon to carbon
Fletching Q2i Fusion II high profile (.55) three vane config
Firenock lighted nocks (approximately 22 grains total weight)

Thinking about putting a 100 grain brass insert up front, and running 100 grain broadheads.

Arrow weight cut to 29" is 245.05
Fletching weight approx 22 grains (with glue)
Firenocks 22 grains complete

So 289.05 prior to insert install. Add 100 grains for the brass insert and you are at 389.05 with killer FOC.

Run a 100 grain head up front and you are at 489.05

My question is, will the 350 spine be adequate for this amount of weight up front?

And what is the best arrow build calculator for iPhone in your opinion? I do way to many builds not to go ahead and get the best calculator out there.

So I put a HHA single pin sight on my wife’s Carbon Knockout. 20 yds is here:

Which doesn’t give her much room, since it should be near zero.
The sight housing is in the lowest holes:

And the way the string stop is attached, there’s no room for an adapter to lower it on the riser:

The peep is set to a comfortable distance for her:

Any suggestions?

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Ok carbon icon shooters. What speeds are you getting out of your bow? My DL is 28.5 DW is 71# and it’s on the comfort setting. Shooting a 400 grain arrow at 280 fps. How is everybody else doing with the carbon icon? And what is your overall set up? I don’t see many threads of people actually using the carbon icon. Just a few threads of when it was first released.

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