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Got my 2014 KS buck back!

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Happy to get this big bodied buck up on the wall!


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2014 Ohio buck back in N.C.

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Got my Nov. Ohio buck back this past weekend, He capped off a season like none other in my life.

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2014 Archery Doe (pic)

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Did not tag a buck these past archery season but I did put this nice doe on the ground in late October on a nice cool morning. Quartering away about 20 yards if not under a little bit, sent an arrow through the liver and lung (thanks to Jerry at SouthShore for building my hunting arrows) and passed through behind the opposite shoulder. She had managed to go a couple hundred yards, got off the blood trail for a while, then got back on it, blood picked up, looked up on this small hill in the woods when I heard a crash and saw her jump up then fall back over. I backed out and came back an hour or so later and she was dead right there.
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2014 Xcentric and 2015 Nitrum Turbo…First Impressions

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Alright! So as some of you know, I’ve been setting up to buy my first bow since October. I’ve shot most everything I can get my hands on that’s within my budget ($ 500-$ 1k or so)…from every maker I could find. PSE, Bowtech, Bear, Hoyt, Mathews…I even found a small Obsession dealer in Wickenburg (about 60 miles away). The Evolution I shot was the wrong draw length for me (1/2" long), but I got to handle it…and liked it quite a bit. Up to this point though…the Nitrum Turbo held the top slot by a fair margin. The only things left for me to shoot were an Xpedition Xcentric, and an APA M5. APA has a risk free trial…where you buy the bow, and have five days to shoot it as much as you like. If you don’t like it you ship it back (they told me return shipping from Arizona to Canada would be like $ 30, since there would be no customs on a ‘warranty’ return). I’ll be ordering one of those in February to shoot in direct comparison to the bow I buy this week through my local pro shop. With APA taken care of…all that was left was Xpedition. Since there was no dealer within a million miles of me…I contacted Xpedition through their website, asking about the possibility of sending a bow to my local dealer for me to shoot. It turns out…they have an actual demo bow program, which provides a bow of your choice to try out as a potential customer. There is no risk to you, or your dealer (your dealer DOES have to approve the transaction…but Xpedition honestly makes it pretty painless. My dealer had no issues at all). They even send the bow with a return shipping tag. If you choose to buy it (or order one to your full specifications), your dealer gets the full profit as if they were a vested Xpedition dealer. If not, you send it back on their dime. I was pretty impressed…and honestly so was the owner of my local shop. Anyhow, when I got the second email back from Xpedition (within TWO days of contacting them) telling me that my shop had agreed to receive the bow, and asking me exactly what I wanted to have sent to me…I told them I’d like a 27" 70lb 2015 Xcentric in Moonshine Wildfire camo. It turns out that they normally don’t give you your choice of color on the demo program…much less a custom color like Moonshine Wildfire lol. BUT!!…one of the sales reps remembered that a custom Wildfire 2014 Xcentric had been ordered by one of their dealers not long before I contacted them (that even had custom orange and black strings). It was supposed to be a left handed bow but that somehow got left off the order sheet…and a right hand model was built. Blake (the national sales rep for Xpedition) got ahold of me and told me that if I wanted to go with the 2014 (in the color I wanted), he could send it out within a week or two, if not he’d get a 2015 model sent out to me when they started shipping. I gave the go ahead and the process started.

Anyhow, after some mixups with shipping over the holiday season, Blake informed me last week that the bow was on its way, and when I asked, even had their one of their factory guys take some pictures for me!


So…to get to the point!..the bow finally came in today! I took the box from the UPS guy, opened it up, and pulled out the bow. Man was it BRIGHT lol! Much brighter than the pictures I’d been sent indicated. Everyone in the shop pretty much said ‘What on earth is that?!’ in unison. The general consensus though, was very positive. Aside from the wild color and the very well done riser, the majority of attention went to the cable guard. Everyone liked it, though most expressed concerns as to the durability (in person it looks very…well, almost ‘dainty’ lol). When I explained that over 5000 bows were sold in 2014, and there wasn’t one single durability issue with the cable guard, there was a lot of ‘hmm…guess it works just fine then!’. I also explained (as was explained to me) that even at full draw, there’s actually less than 2lbs of pressure on the guard. With the engineered reinforcement inherent in the design…durability in that area was a no brainer.

Anyway, I got the bow in a vice, slapped on a shop whisker biscuit, tied a loop on and set the center shot right down the middle. From there all I did was drop it down to a comparable draw weight to shoot side by side with the Nitrum Turbo. The factory manual says not to turn them down more than 8lbs (exactly 4 turns on the limb bolts), so I shot it at dead on 62lbs, with the 4g factory brass nock set that was on it and a 6g loop (heavier due to being longer to accommodate the nock set). The Nitrum Turbo was a 60lb max bow with bottomed limb bolts (pulled 59.98lbs on the shop scale). I’d previously added a 5g loop and shop Whisker Biscuit to that bow as well. With the three 400 spine Deer Crossing Eco Hunter arrows (weighed at 361-362g between the three) the speeds were pretty close. The Xcentric shot 285-286fps. The Turbo 281-282fps. Counting the 4fps for the additional poundage and some for the weight on the string…they’re pretty much even. Those numbers put the Turbo 6fps below IBO, and the Xcentric 8fps below…per OnTarget2. Given chrono variations, the fact that I’m on the bottom of the Xcentric cam, and that the bow is fully extended on the limbs…that’s more than reasonable for me.

As for feel on the bows, the draw cycle was almost identical. The Nitrum was a bit ‘easier’…but I’m sure that was a function of the added 2lbs on the Xcentric. Both bows loaded up hard early on the draw…eased up through the middle, then increased in resistance right before the valley. The Xcentric had a very short valley leading to a seriously solid back wall, and I didn’t spend any time adjusting the stops to widen the valley yet (if I do at all…it was plenty comfortable as it was)…as this was basically about figuring out my initial impression. The Turbo had a larger ‘hump’ at the back of the draw, and the effective ‘drop’ into the valley was larger…but the ‘landing’ is soft…making the valley feel sort of ‘cushy’. The feel wasn’t negative in ANY way…just a soft landing after the hard drop into the valley. The wall was ‘firm’, but not hard. The Xcentric’s was smoother going in with less ‘hump’ and ‘drop’, but it was a much more abrupt landing. This is due I’m sure to the fact that when you hit the wall, you’re stopped dead…rather than having a slight natural shock absorber in the string stop. For the record…I normally prefer shorter valleys with a solid wall…so I’m good there. Neither was ‘better’ than the other for me, they were just very different in feel in that part of the draw cycle. The other thing is…I’m right at 26.75" on the draw (these were both 27" module bows)…plus I tied my loop a hair longer than usual to make sure it fit around the brass nock (you can see in the pictures below…it added maybe 1/8" effective added draw length). This made my hold point a bit further back than I’m used to, which I’m sure added to the feel of slamming into the back wall as I had to pull harder in that area than I normally would in order to get to my anchor.

While shooting the bows myself, both bows were very quiet. However standing beside them while someone else shot, you could hear a slight vibration noise from the Nitrum, while the Xcentric was even more silent. I thought this was strange because in hand there was no vibration at all on either bow. The Turbo did have just the slightest amount of jumpiness as the arrow left. I don’t want to say it was ‘vibration’ because it was just a slight jerk. ‘Hand shock’ also seems kind of an over exaggeration. The Xcentric was completely dead. Neither bow had anything added as far as vibration dampening or stabilization other than what is provided by the factory…which is far more substantial on the Hoyt (air shox, and all the rubber bits in the riser). Also…neither bow had been AT ALL timed. This was literally an out of the box side by side shooting session between two bows. The only reason for me to even mention any of this is for full disclosure of what I experienced. For myself personally, even if one of them had vibrated my teeth out, I wouldn’t have let that influence my choice as I know both are quality bows, and when setup properly will be absolutely silent and dead in hand.

In the end, if I were shooting them blind…it would be a tough call. The Xcentric absolutely had a stiffer draw (precisely the same ‘feel’…just more force required), but again…I’m sure that was simply a function of the 2lb difference in weight. The Xcentric also ‘felt’ faster…much more than the 4fps or so the chrono showed. I’m not sure why that is, but it was absolutely the case. Possibly just the feel coming out of the short and crisp valley off a hard wall…vs the larger valley and softer wall on the Turbo. For me though, even with the obvious quality of both bows…Blake’s personal customer service, as well as the overall experience in dealing with Xpedition has won me over…and the Xcentric is going to be the bow I take home. I certainly can’t take anything away from the Nitrum Turbo…it’s been my easy favorite of all the bows I’ve shot in the last three months for a reason…but with them being so very similar to me in shooting them…picking the Xcentric just makes better sense.

Anyhow, here’s a few pictures to go along with my impressions.


Xcentric at 62lbs.


Nitrum Turbo at 60lbs.


Sitting on the rack…waiting for their time at bat! You can see the beginner JOAD class bows behind them. Those little Genesis bows are actually a lot of fun to shoot, lol.


285-286fps for the Xcentric. I put six shots through the chrono for each bow.


281-282fps for the Nitrum Turbo.

Anyway, to close…it’s been implied in other threads that I don’t have the experience to do any sort of ‘review’ of these bows, having only been shooting for 3 months or so. This may or may not be the case…but at the same time, having shot literally every day for the last 90+ days straight, and having shot bows from every major manufacturer out there that I could get my hands on (with a very critical eye I might add), I do feel qualified to share my overall thoughts on these bows, as well as my experiences shooting them.

Feel free to take them for what they cost you (this is the internet after all!).

:D

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Missouri Buck Kills 2014!

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Lets see your Missouri Bucks. Bow, Gun, CrossBow, Atalatal, lol it dont matter just post up what you killed this year! Be proud of what ya got!

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Where are the 2014 Cyber Monday deals?

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I did not see a thread on this yet. Anybody have some good deals lined up?

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2014 ohio buck clip

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AS YOU CAN TELL I HAD MAJOR PROBS WITH THE CAMERA ON THIS HUNT LIKE THINKING I HIT RECORD BUTTON LOL AND TURNING THE MIC ON DURING THE RECOVERY BUT HEY WE HAD FUN AND WE DONT CLAIM TO BE PROS JUST COUNTRY BOYS LOVIN TO HUNT!!!!! HOPE YA ENJOY MY CLIPS I HAVE A FEW MORE ON YOUTUBE!!
THANKS BILL

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2014 archery deer what do you think he will score

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Awesome Buck thought him , long short is pulled off a 72 yard shot with my HCA speed pro x 10 DCA 300 HUNTER @ 28.5 76 LB and a lot of luck . I was in my stand around 9 am I started to see a few nice bucks out of range . This guy came in on the hill side to my south crossed a little behind a tree I ranged at 40 yards , so i put my 40 yard pin top of the shoulder burped and released . I then realized that he was quite a bit further thai I thought as i heard the impact and watched him turn to see the arrow sticking out his side gave time and tracked for a total of 3/4 mile found in a creek hit liver and lung took forever to find glad i did not give up any one no the score?4

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